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Post by ebube on Mar 6, 2018 16:00:19 GMT -4
Trump's Call for Mental Institutions
So You Think Someone Might be Mentally Ill
These two articles were well written
Trumps call for mental institutions is actually a good idea. Provided there would be adequate funding for the mentally ill patients who, cannot live on their own and require much more than outpatient treatment, and not just a dumping ground for “sickos”.
Weather the return of mental asylums would have an effect of the incidence of mass shootings is an entirely different discussion, as mental illness is a variable cause of mass shootings. For a ‘mass’ shooting to occur there has to be
1. Access to fire arms (Fixed)
2. A mentally unstable individual or a terrorist (Variable)
So to imply that mass shootings can be stopped or significantly reduced by only tackling ½ of the variable condition of these conditions that favor mass shootings is just plane wrong.
As second article said “most mentally ill people are not violent, and curing all mental illnesses would only prevent a small fraction—about 4 percent—of all violence. However, mentally ill people are more likely to carry out acts of violence if they aren’t being treated—hospitalized or medicated—for their mental illness. In other words, if we do want to prevent the small percentage of mentally ill people who might be violent from being violent, we should try to get them into treatment”
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Post by destiny on Mar 7, 2018 0:23:51 GMT -4
TRUMP'S CALL FOR MENTAL ILLNESS.
This article was definitely a good read. I think With sufficient funding and proper implementation, Asylums will be indeed of great help. Though asylums may not be a hundred percent able to get rid of psychiatric cases but there is a chance of being reduced to a bare minimum. It is necessary to separate violence from mental illness as not all cases of violence are as a result of mental illness but there should be psychiatric body that is able to scrutinize and distinguish them from one another so as to allow for proper cause of action. It is sad that many psychiatric patients end up in prisons. This is not the best solution as they are not being taken care of and they end up deteriorating. I must commend the president for showing great concern.
Also i will like to add that there should be regulation of arms in circulation. Full implementation of licensing of arms and ammunition should be made compulsory to avoid illegal handling of weapons.
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Post by destiny on Mar 7, 2018 1:12:25 GMT -4
SO YOU THINK SOMEONE MIGHT BE MENTALLY ILL?
First off, I would like to say that it is difficult to differentiate between mental illness and normal violence especially in a teenager at this age. Although, it may not be clear if the boy in question is a psychiatric case but from every indication from previous happenings like persistent fixation on guns despite police intervention, and being in and out of mental health hospitals, one should be able to take preventive measures by early intervention by taking him for proper evaluation and treatment. no matter how small the signs may seem, a psychiatric evaluation is important as it is better to be safe than sorry.
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Post by kodi on Mar 8, 2018 20:16:31 GMT -4
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Post by kodi on Mar 8, 2018 21:08:38 GMT -4
Trump call for Mental institution and So you think someone might be mentally ill.
Trump call to revisit mental asylum with the hope of eradicating mass shooting is eating the right food with the wrong cutlery. Yes mental asylum needs revisiting. Though reinstitutionilizin mental asylum / stepping up mental care including financing and providing more facilities to aid easy access and proper attention may alone not be the solution to American mass shooting and gun violence but it is still a good step and not only will it reduced the violence by 4% as quoted in the article as the percentage of gun violence as a result of psychotic state, but it will also increase productivity of the whole populace as lots brains are wasting as a result of one form of psychotic state or the other.
Time to revist and remedy the cut in federal mental health by Reagan and further gutting of same during the Great Recession. Time to fix the Nationwide shortage of psychiatric bed. Time to pay proper attention to someone losing touch with reality and not only wait until when really sick and dangerous and perhaps proved his "dangerous" state with gunning down innocent souls. The Florida shooter showed every sign that something is not alright but alas, he doesn't seem dangerous. Time to revisit some of the Medical ethics, HIPPA practice and some privacy policy that wouldn't allow one intervene on behalf of a suspected mentally deranged person." Time to improve the Nations productivity by improving mental health care. As for the gun violence, that is a topic for another day but all I need say here is that you cannot reduce gun violence without reducing access to gun.
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Post by Temitope Ogundipe on Mar 12, 2018 17:53:20 GMT -4
Re-opening mental asylums can be a way of reducing mass shootings and other forms of gun violence across the United States. It also serves as a proactive measure in the sense that a mentally ill patient with such tendencies is adequately and properly medically managed before an adverse occurrence ensues. Also, as professor Sisti puts it, it would most probably be expensive but worth it compared to lives that could potentially be maimed or lost were not such measures put in place. However, it also pertinent that modifiable risk factors that trigger or precipitate deadly acts like the case of the Florida shootings need be addressed. Granted, the factors leading to mental disorders such as Schizophrenia are multifactorial, but contributing factors such as environmental and social such as violent video games exposure, easy access to firearms should be worked upon; a form of social pastime does not have to be gory in details to be enjoyable. In addition, tech devices access to minors should be brought to the barest minimum and age limits to ‘who gets to watch what’ should be put in place. |
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Post by Opeyemi Owa on Mar 14, 2018 9:17:28 GMT -4
Trumps Call for Mental Institutions
I really liked this article, while it is sad that the reason more funding for mental health is being discussed is because of the false link between gun violence and mental health, its exciting that its even being discussed. I agree that instead of a reestablishment of the old asylum, funds should be directed towards developing more comfortable, humane therapeutic centres. I also think it would help is that was more incentive for people to consider going into the field of mental health, cause at the end of the day the quality of care patients receive at these centre will be affected by the providers that treat them. Maybe JFK's Community Mental Health Act also needs to be revisited.
So you think someone might be mentally ill
This article and the interview was so heartbreak, it is clear that there are huge gaps in patients access to mental health care. What Snook said about the viewing of mental illness from a medical rather that criminal (i.e is this person a danger) stand point is so critical. Funding, funding, funding. We keep coming back here. How is it okay for law enforcement to occasionally be the first line in a patients access to treatment. Mental illness needs to be treated as what it is, a disease. There is also the reality that in some cases everyones hands will be tied, it is important to remain ethical giving patients the option of choosing to seek care.
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Post by Laura Torres (LTC-UMHS) on Mar 30, 2018 15:30:22 GMT -4
“Trump’s Call for Mental Institutions Could Be Good”
This article brings the attention to the importance of mental health in our society. The sad story is that in our society we do not validate the importance of mental health. Our society gives more priority to those medical conditions that are not technically invisible, but we come back to the fact that not because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it is not there. “Bring back asylums isn’t actually the worst idea”. I am not totally agreed with this idea, but in some part, it has a lot of sense. The proposing of bringing back the mental health institutions may work, but it has to have the correct development. We can develop mental institutions that meet the necessities of the patient, in where the physician can assess the mental status of each individual and treated them according to their necessities. I am not referring to the idea of those psychiatric hospitals that back in the days use to abuse from the patients instead of rehabilitating them. What I refer is the kind of psychiatric hospital that can segregate patients according to the grade of their psychiatric illness and aggressiveness, so every patient can be accordingly addressed to their condition instead to become sicker. I am referring about offer a high quality of care involving a complete treatment team with; psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists, nurses, social workers, and other medical staff so we can assess and address the different patients efficiently during their stay in the hospital. So, they can really rehabilitate and be able to interact again with the society and address daily situations that sometimes can be full of stress, anxiety, and problems as part of an adult life. This type of psychiatric hospital can offer the non-pharmacological and pharmacological therapy to prepare people to handle stressful situations of an adult life avoiding a burst that can end in a gun-violence event or any other criminal incident. I am not implying that mental illness is the cause of violence, crimes or gun-violence incidents. But is not a mystery that a small percentage of mentally ill patients are violent, and because it is hard to tell which one of these patients will turn out to be violent it will be better if they receive the appropriate treatment and help on time. However, link the mental illness with violence incidents is a stigmatization. We should not just assume that a mentally ill patient caused the incident, which will be hard to know. Instead, the government should create more laws to regulate the access and use of firearms. Furthermore, we as a society should recognize the importance to have a better mental health care and learn to unlink mental illness from violence. Definitely, a society with a good mental health gives us a better quality of life. Finally, everybody deserves to have the opportunity to receive a good mental health care.
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Post by Laura Torres (LTC-UMHS) on Mar 30, 2018 15:39:57 GMT -4
“So you think someone might be mentally ill”
As the article mentioned not all the violence episodes or events are linked to a mental illness, but some of them do. The factor that we need to take in consideration is if the person who has a mental illness getting the care they need? Usually, the answer is no, because of different reasons; the person does not accept that have a mental illness or they don’t want help, or they just cannot afford the care (usually some of these people are homeless) and the government system does not provide the resources to help them. It is true that the government in most of the states doesn’t support and fund the mental health care system, as they should. I totally agreed on Khazan when he says that; “…mentally ill people are more likely to carry out acts of violence if they aren’t being treated –hospitalized or medicated- for their mental illness”. Is for this reason that we as a society should take seriously the mental health illness and treat them accordingly. As we need to go beyond the basics and as Snook mentioned we couldn’t just focus on the dangerousness of the situation, we should give the importance to mental illness conditions as any other medical condition that could be life threating to the patient and therefore deserved to be treated.
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