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Post by Admin on Oct 29, 2019 16:18:40 GMT -4
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Post by A.S. MS3 - SGU on Oct 30, 2019 0:35:19 GMT -4
1) I found the criticism of modern psychiatry very interesting. Invoking Chalmers' hard problem of consciousness is a bold move; it undermines the rationale to physically treat mental symptoms. I enjoy how his view jives with up-and-coming hypnotism, MDMA, and LSD therapies.
2) Modern medical students are depressed and strung out. Medical schools should rethink recruiting the most neurotic, grade-obsessed people who have spent their lives chasing a carrot on a stick - these people struggle to be satisfied, and the endless ladder of medicine is a trap.
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Post by EE MS3 SGU on Oct 30, 2019 0:57:25 GMT -4
1) This critique of modern day psychiatry, or even this entire branch of medicine as a whole throughout time, is quite interesting. He definitely strips it down to the bones of other fields of medicines view on psych as well as the publics view of psych. By doing so it is easy to see why even after all this time, and all these advances psych is still considered one of the pseudo-sciences in the field of medicine. This consideration also likely is what aids in the stigmatizing of the field of psychiatry and almost everyone who may be involved with it, from the patients, to the therapists (shrinks), to the doctors themselves, there is still a slight disdain for all of these people when you discuss it with others.
2&3) Both of these articles hit a much more personal note with me because as an adolescent I likely suffered from what I believe to have been depression. I lost a lot of interest in things that I liked, retreated into myself often times locking myself in my room thinking of how much better the world would be if I was no longer part of it, sleep was always an issue both struggling to fall asleep and also waking up early in the morning. I felt like this consistently for roughly 4 years of my life. Upon embarking on my journey into the field of medicine, and knowing the high amounts of depression and suicide in this field, my biggest worry was always falling back into this depression, except this time being older and knowing more about suicide actually being able to come up with a plan and being able to execute it. So now I try and stay vigilant of any signs or symptoms of depression, especially because it is a disease that is exceptionally good at hiding itself, that I know that I would likely be the only one that would be able to notice that anything is actually wrong.
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Post by HK MS4 SGU on Oct 30, 2019 8:38:51 GMT -4
1) I thought Dr. McLaren made a number of solid points regarding the way in which psychiatry is handled. The mind is very complex, and cannot be addressed the same way in which we diagnose and treat physical ailments, and I do agree that a more comprehensive approach is vital to best help patients. I also liked that he was able to cater his approach to what was available to him. Taking into consideration cultural beliefs, climate, and available treatment options are just a few ways in which psychiatry can be catered to each individual patient.
2 & 3) Having completed most of medical school at this point, it is easy to see why depression and anxiety is prevalent amongst medical students. When we are not in the hospital, we are constantly reading up on various topics and studying for exams to the point that we often forget to do the things that we love, and take the time to talk to our loved ones. That is further compounded by the culture of fear and paranoia often perpetuated by medical schools and hospitals, in which students are afraid to speak up for fear of saying the wrong thing or coming across as combative. These factors start to take a toll on students both physically and mentally, and I think it is a huge disservice to the medical community at large because it is just producing doctors that are burnt out before they even start their careers. That is not to say it is all bad. I know that light is being shed on this issue, and that many medical schools and residency programs are making strides to make student and physician well-being a priority.
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Post by L.A.S.R (MS3) on Oct 30, 2019 8:46:32 GMT -4
In regards to the article that covers mental illness during medical school, I found that the author hit the nail on the head. The fact that there isn’t a reliable support system in most medical schools in today’s society is unfathomable; taking into consideration they are training future physicians, and people whose purpose is to ensure the well-being and health of others. The fact that mental illness has been taken for granted or regarded as a joke throughout history adds to the problem, because in today’s society a large portion of the mass seems to agree with that idea, and it only obstructs further advancements in the field. Personally, I believe it is important in case of students, specifically in the third year, when we are separated from our colleagues and thrown around different states, forced to go through studying by ourselves, instead of being surrounded by friends from medical school; who themselves would provide support and studying drive. The system needs to change.
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Post by M.A MS3 on Oct 30, 2019 9:06:43 GMT -4
I can relate the most to the medical school students having an increase in anxiety and depression because I saw so much of that in my first two years. I can honestly say my anxiety has increased tremendously while being in medical school. The sad part is there is very little help for us medical students. There is not a huge push to take care of ourselves mentally. We are constantly bombarded by new material daily and expected to keep up with it. And if we are not able to then our dreams of becoming a physician are extremely diminished. I’m hoping that in the near future medical schools will change their curriculum to incorporate more time for self care for students so that there can become an overall decrease in depression and anxiety. But also a decrease in physician suicide rates, because a lot of the issues arise while they were in medical school.
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Post by RD (MS3-SGU) on Oct 30, 2019 9:56:43 GMT -4
I found the Med school anxiety/depression article the easiest to relate to. Spending 2 years at a Caribbean med school I have experienced my share of anxiety that's considered "normal," that every medical student experiences, I would imagine. On the other hand, I am sure we've all had friends (or maybe ourselves) who went beyond the "normal anxiety" and really struggled mentally. Going to a Caribbean med school, we all know how important it is the excel in our studies in order to "make it off the island." Unfortunately we all known a few people that were teetering the pass/fail line and witnessed first hand the anxiety they carried with them on a daily basis and the depression that came with it. Often times it would be difficult to get them out of their rooms to do group activities etc, which was difficult to see and understand. After learning more about psych it's easy to look back and realize how many hallmark criteria of anxiety/depression apply to us as medical students and I believe more resources should be allocated to helping us through those difficult days.
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Post by Sk AIMU on Oct 30, 2019 10:25:22 GMT -4
Depression is one of the serious problem which is most spoken by common people through out the world. Reason for depression could be various but most commonly it is work, family ,financial stresses leading to depression. This can be falsely said medical students don’t face depression they are just like any other students they have family, they have friends, they have daily activities but, they sacrifice a lot more than any other students in order to perform better. In order alleviate depression, anxiety, mood disorders amongst medical students school management should proactively arrange fun out door activities, interest groups, mentors programs and many more which could help the students. As many of us are aware depression is not just if the person appears to be sad it could just be person smiling and still have depression. I believe depression is not a major illness if you take appropriate measure for ex: make a good relationship, have memorable and fun conversations, participate in outdoor activities, have good restful sleep, make a journal to see your progress everyday, and make your surroundings happy.
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Post by ZG MS3 SGU on Oct 30, 2019 10:36:36 GMT -4
The theories about psychiatry and saying that a scientific model is needed is great. That would be amazing, but what I do not see in this article is a way to execute such a plan. It's like saying we need to fix world hunger, and then just stopping there. Is it scary how much of psychiatry is a guessing game and unknown? Yes, but it is the most proven method we have at this point. Progress is always slow. For medical students battling mental health, I believe this to be a serious issue. It is all around you. Everyone is competing against everyone and besides each individuals very small circle of support, there is not much out there. I believe some of this is partly to blame on the students. I witness people putting each other down all the time, in an effort to raise their self esteem.
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Post by VK -AIMU on Oct 30, 2019 10:38:24 GMT -4
1.Modern medicine is purely evidence based as when it comes psychiatry it's based on emotion ,thought process, situation .Modern psychiatry is trying to blur the lines in terms of existence, classification , definition when compared with general medicine as psychiatry is always understated.
2&3. It's really interesting that school management or the university is least bothered regarding the stress a student undergo during all his year of education emotionally, personally, financially and with exams .I personally feel it begins with stress which eventually lead to depression or anxiety .As said depression vary with person and sometimes it's hard to explain.As medical student we try not succumb to these situation .
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